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Message: <blockquote data-quote="XGC HYLANDER XC" data-source="post: 4357" data-attributes="member: 155">I believe both of these issues, PRO Team and using these glitches have something in common. So many seemed to join XGC or other clans thinking they were going to be part of some special group or PRO players and glitchers.  When in reality 95% of our members couldn't finish last in these PRO tourney's nor have any idea about the glitches that people do. Some just don't care about them at all. I have never once did a super jump. I tried long ago but never cared about seeing the sky or getting outside a map. I mean, wtf ?  When would being outside the map do me any good in a match?   Most people that play this game, don't even know how to do these things. Those that do have taken the game a few steps further by exploiting the bugs in it.  To me, I don't think there is a problem with using glitches or some mods when done so in a closed custom game with others that are aware of them. There is a world of difference though from what I am saying about mods and what the idiot cheaters use in matchmaking to get a number besides their name that they can't back up. The same idiots then de-level which is just as bad in my book.  I have been in a modded custom game once way back in April of 2006 which was a month after I joined XGC. I went into an open party where some people not in XGC where playing. My intention was to recruit them as they had been on my freinds list for some time. In that game, the map was actually very cool looking and they were just hanging out. After sitting there dumbfounded beings I really had no clue about mods or anything else, I left the match after about 2 minutes. Were they bad people? Nope. Most were like level 20 something and I am almost 100% sure they never once went into match matching and used any mods to cheat. However, they did mod for their own enjoyment. I have been told that Action Replay allows you to download countless custom games. Many of which sound very cool. However, our community does not allow them. So I don't even consider them at all.  I have seen them via vids online and my son freakin loves that stuff as his first KoG clan had a bunch of glitchers and modders in it which is why he is no longer in that clan and neither are those others that had them. He was 6 years old at the time (just turned 7 this month)  so the idea of some funky looking maps and jumping out of them is pretty cool. Again, I say for the record, even if my opinion is that they are cool in a custom game, our honorcode states that you are not allowed to play in them.   So, DON"T DO IT. As stated over and over again, NO UNFAIR ADVANTAGES. The whole idea here is to play the game as it was meant to be played and do your best to not get owned the right way.  Bungie says it, our honorcode says it so that is the way it is. Go play and have fun.</blockquote>

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