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<blockquote data-quote="BCR x B4nKSHoT" data-source="post: 731244" data-attributes="member: 2316"><p>I sat here and tried to read most of these posts of members arguing (with some making good points) others complaining, some having great questions left unanswered and way tooo much unclarified material in this new enacting rule being discussed.</p><p></p><p>First of All I think I know Daystar from halo nights a few times and I completely agree with her above statement (which took most of my argument lol) but I have my own additional points to throw on here as well. As a member since 2006 I've shown enough loyalty to throw contradictions into the melting pot. I believe that if the Leadership is truly trying to pass this (yes I believe this should be voted on by the entire community) then please be on this thread and clarifying any questions no matter how simple and/or complicated made by all members. Yes this is a big mind-boggler for most members especially since this <strong>does</strong> sound more of a vendetta then a helping hand in making a stronger community.</p><p></p><p>Quick point regarding what Ixias said: "If you think the price is too high, then you might possibly want to reconsider you hobby of gaming..." that's a little overboard and no offense but "makes" you "sound" exactly what XGC members avoided from KSI and other clans/communities. Please take care in words we share amongst our members and no discrimination towards anyone no matter what their economical state is. </p><p></p><p>"If you think the price is too high, then you should come talk to me I can either help you try and reduce it or I will help you out with paying it" said Bankshot</p><p></p><p>Next Point This is a great community with great like minded people filled with opportunity to enjoy endless great conversations, fun game times, and possible friendships/relationships that have the potential to join people outside the gaming world, this is the shining light that draws people to XG and keeps them in for years, that is what we should strive to keep going so less and less members feel the urge to break the HC or leave. Not that they stay in XG for fear of having to pay or worse not being able to afford to get back.</p><p></p><p>Now I know that this will be a "Case by Case" system but we all know that it won't truly be that simple and will end-up being more of hassle amid confusion and drama. There will be talk of favoritism, bribery, hell even possible adultery Lol</p><p></p><p>Yes I know people leave some without truly knowing why while others leave fully-understanding what they are doing but the truth is with all the loop holes that are exposed on xbox this proposal will end-up hurting the less knowledgeable and less tech savy Ex-Members than anyone else.</p><p>Why you ask? very simple</p><p>Members can just change their name which I believe is what 7-8 Bucks? that's a lot cheaper than $50 at least here in NYC it is. </p><p>The less knowledgeable or less tech Savvy members don't really know how to change their name and therefore be suckered into paying possibly 50 bucks.</p><p></p><p>New accounts: a one year is what a lil over 50 bucks as well</p><p>Some people actually don't know they can have multiple accounts on their Xbox =( "I guess they will be just walked through how to pay $50</p><p>on the website?"</p><p></p><p>These examples can keep going but you get my point.</p><p></p><p>My true opinion is this should be put to a month or 2 month long vote where all XG members can decide on and also include an (optional) debate box for each side to make their points while they vote.</p><p></p><p>This is definitely something that should not be up to leadership but up to the community as a whole because we are all XG members first and then our Ranks within the community 2nd.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BCR x B4nKSHoT, post: 731244, member: 2316"] I sat here and tried to read most of these posts of members arguing (with some making good points) others complaining, some having great questions left unanswered and way tooo much unclarified material in this new enacting rule being discussed. First of All I think I know Daystar from halo nights a few times and I completely agree with her above statement (which took most of my argument lol) but I have my own additional points to throw on here as well. As a member since 2006 I've shown enough loyalty to throw contradictions into the melting pot. I believe that if the Leadership is truly trying to pass this (yes I believe this should be voted on by the entire community) then please be on this thread and clarifying any questions no matter how simple and/or complicated made by all members. Yes this is a big mind-boggler for most members especially since this [B]does[/B] sound more of a vendetta then a helping hand in making a stronger community. Quick point regarding what Ixias said: "If you think the price is too high, then you might possibly want to reconsider you hobby of gaming..." that's a little overboard and no offense but "makes" you "sound" exactly what XGC members avoided from KSI and other clans/communities. Please take care in words we share amongst our members and no discrimination towards anyone no matter what their economical state is. "If you think the price is too high, then you should come talk to me I can either help you try and reduce it or I will help you out with paying it" said Bankshot Next Point This is a great community with great like minded people filled with opportunity to enjoy endless great conversations, fun game times, and possible friendships/relationships that have the potential to join people outside the gaming world, this is the shining light that draws people to XG and keeps them in for years, that is what we should strive to keep going so less and less members feel the urge to break the HC or leave. Not that they stay in XG for fear of having to pay or worse not being able to afford to get back. Now I know that this will be a "Case by Case" system but we all know that it won't truly be that simple and will end-up being more of hassle amid confusion and drama. There will be talk of favoritism, bribery, hell even possible adultery Lol Yes I know people leave some without truly knowing why while others leave fully-understanding what they are doing but the truth is with all the loop holes that are exposed on xbox this proposal will end-up hurting the less knowledgeable and less tech savy Ex-Members than anyone else. Why you ask? very simple Members can just change their name which I believe is what 7-8 Bucks? that's a lot cheaper than $50 at least here in NYC it is. The less knowledgeable or less tech Savvy members don't really know how to change their name and therefore be suckered into paying possibly 50 bucks. New accounts: a one year is what a lil over 50 bucks as well Some people actually don't know they can have multiple accounts on their Xbox =( "I guess they will be just walked through how to pay $50 on the website?" These examples can keep going but you get my point. My true opinion is this should be put to a month or 2 month long vote where all XG members can decide on and also include an (optional) debate box for each side to make their points while they vote. This is definitely something that should not be up to leadership but up to the community as a whole because we are all XG members first and then our Ranks within the community 2nd. [/QUOTE]
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